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Wednesday, June 18, 2008

Battlegrounds! You Lose!

Why does the horde own most of the battlegrounds? At least on most of the servers I play on they do.

Alliance players will win at the 19 twink level most of the time in WSG, which I kind of find irritating. Some level 70 alliance players will actually complain about losing in BG's all the time, yet they have lvl 19 twinks, go figure. Instead of focusing on their lvl70 toon with gear, they level a 19 toon and gear the smack out of it, which I don't have a problem with level 19 twinks, I have a problem with the person that plays the twink also complains about their lvl 70 toon always losing.

So why do we lose most of the time?
Answer is simple, lack of team work and the attitudes that go with it.

Alliance never really communicate and get a battle plan ready during the 1 minute wait period, nor do buffs even get distributed. It's always a 1 man show, who can kill the most and hope we somehow manage to win at doing so. Also the only communication that goes out is "help" and "you suck" type of /BG chat.

Yeah that's a wining combo...
/sarcasm off

If you ever watch the horde, 90% of them are always grouped with at least 1 to 2 other hordies, the ones that run solo always die. Alliance will try to solo things in a group, odd I know. Let me break this down abit.

Horde: has a plan of attack and defence before the match starts. They have groups set up and will stick with those groups. They buff each other even in mid battle they will buff and heal. They travel in groups. They have very good communication across the /BG chat channel.

Alliance: everyone just wants the marks and honor with as little team work as possible. most of them travel alone. Buffs, yeah once in a blue moon before the battle starts. Heals, Ha forget it. Sometimes they will start as a group and most of the time that group disbands after the first real horde attack. Alterec Valley is the only time the alliance will group and that is because they really have no choice in the matter. Communication across /BG chat is usually someone flaming someone or the entire group. No plans of attack or defence goes out unless its AB and no one ever follows it.

Listen no one likes a hero, when a team effort is needed, and I am pretty darn sure that BG's consist of more then 1 person per team.

Oh yeah also I hear this alot; "but the horde are all deck out in PVP gear"
well that's because they play like a team and win 80% (being generous to the alliance with that number) of the time.

Listen to win a BG takes skill, communication, and above all TEAMWORK!!!! play like your in a raid/pug run. Yes gear helps but if your group has the skills and teamwork they can cut the horde at the throat- take the healers out- and then 5 people focus on the 1 or 2 geared out horde and destroy him/her. Hit them where it hurts. Maybe do the objective of the BG with teamwork.

Some winning Strats for BG's:

WSG:
1.) Get a 7 man offence and go straight for the flag, leave 3 on D just to defend the flag long enough for your team to get their flag.
2.) Try to separate the horde up so they are not in such strong groups, play decoy cat and mouse with them.
3.) Don't guard the flag carrier per say, Guard the possible attack routes to the flag carrier, objective is to stop the horde from reaching the flag carrier not stop them from beating the flag carrier first, let that be a last resort , if the flag drops- its over. So get them before they can even get with in attacking distance of the flag carrier.

AB:
1.) Have 3 teams of 5 people go out and capture some nodes, if you start to die do not run back if most of your party is dead because it will be horde verses 1 or 2 alliance on a chain Resurrection( 5 allies go in 2 die leaving 3, by the time the 2 get back the 3 have died and there still remains 4 horde which will whoop on you, the other 3 come back to a 5 man horde and die and so starts the chain.)
2.) travel in 2 groups of 7 and just stop the horde from taking nodes, when you stop them you take the node back you will always have 3 nodes going.( you have 2 nodes, you go to stop the horde from getting a node and take that node over, now you have 3 nodes. the horde take one of your nodes, but little do they know you are taking one of theirs.)
3.) All 15 allies travel from node to node and just take that node, no point in defending it because by the time the horde take it back you will have 2 more nodes captured.

AV:
1.) 40 man raid style kill the general.
10 stay and defend, 30 go out and kill each mini boss. the 10 staying behind can slow the horde down very well on going right for the general. this will give the alliance plenty of time to take out each mini boss and then all 30 can destroy the horde general.
2.) If you skip the mini boss's then all 30 should go in attack the general and not stand around and wait for someone to attack, I don't know how many times I have witnessed the alliance all standing at the entrance for the horde general, but no one goes and starts the battle until it is to late. This BG is very aggressive.

Eye of the Storm:
1.) again maintain groups, keep 1 group posted at the flag and 2 other groups defending the 2 captured nodes.
2.) one large group go node hunting and run in a square taking nodes as fast as they can, no need to defend. Small group try to either defend or take the flag.
3.) confuse the horde and stay in one large group. try to capture the nodes but when doing so travel to each node across the flag path and either grab or defend it.

I hope these helpful tips will help in your battles against the horde.

oh yeah, yes I am leveling some horde toons and have played the BG from the horde side and yes we win most of the time.

3 comments:

Hexapuma said...

I think you are overestimating the other side. The horde works exactly the same way as the alliance. There are no plans in the first minute.. not always buffs either. It just feels like the other side has gotten a battle plan. Roll a horde and see for yourself. In our battlegroup - EU-Cyclone - horde wins most games but I would say it is more because of individually skilled players - not team effort. It just doesn't happen.

WoW Gold Guides said...

nice post!

Anonymous said...

Nearly two years later and Horde still owns BG's...on all the servers I play on as well. And you're right...it IS lack of teamwork. Horde does always travel in groups, even in the small BG's...while most of the time, even if I try to stay with a group of other Alli players, we're all just solo...which kinda bites. And if you say something, you're met with "QQ more, noob!" or "stfu! just kick their asses!" Shame.